If Sudowoodo were to evolve and gain part fighting type, I might reconsider using him. The other names however, I have no idea about so can hardly draw any theories out of.

i am sorry but i still need more proof because joe will not believe you without prooof or any other infomation.

What’s there to prove? They’re just names… What’s the big problem if you believe the names and they change? It’s not like he’s posting the entire information for a Pokemon or something…

On a slightly more important note, I noticed in the Archives section that the updates from January 2005, are under January 2004. It’s still after December 2004 and before February 2005, just it seems to be mislabeled.

Who cares about if Joe believes him or not? He’ll only believe once he can post it on his site saying “YOU SAW IT HERE FIRST” with ‘verified’ information so that he won’t be wrong to be held accountable.

Now, I really can’t wait for visuals, I want to be able to draw these Pokemon > < ugh, it’s so annoying how we always know of the names way in advance and the months seem to take forever before we finally get to SEE THE POKEMON O_O not to mention all of the new ones we won’t even see ‘til the games come out. --;

Manyula sort of reminded me of nyula.. but I’m doubting a relation o.o; manene is fun to say over and over again…

Poor Tangela and Sneasal, they really need evolutions, and it looks like they may have just barely missed their last chance. ^_^

Meowth, it’s not that I don’t trust you, but I remember back around the time RS first came out in Japan, you mentioned the name “Erupiiya” (or was it “Erupiyaa”?), and no Pokémon by that name ever came into existance.

And, Gaiash Ketoji, I’ve learned to take that bit about Tajiri-san having already created 1000 Pokémon with a grain of salt.

Um,Meowth, could I ask where you got this info from? Not to be mean!

Um,Meowth, could I ask where you got this info from? Not to be mean!

Less than half the names found this way in 2002 actually bore fruit and became Pokemon though

Dont count them just yet

Searching for trademarks filed under Nintendo/GameFreak/Creatures, you can find:

Pokemon Topaz

Pokemon Amethyst

Pokemon White Gold

None of which have ever actually materialised. Also of note is that Pokemon Water Blue is submitted by the same “person” as Gonbe…

There is nothing to doubt–the source for these names is the list of official trademarks by Gamefreak. Meowth keeps track of that list and has learned how to get past the special procedures taken by the company to ensure that no one finds out what they have in store earlier than desired. This does not only include names of upcoming Pokemon, but also the games themselves.

Everything surrounding the trademarks is up to the chosen path of advertising by the company. For instance, the trademark for “Pokemon Diamond and Pearl” was apparently registered upon the announcement of the games. In contrast, the trademark for “Pokemon Fire Red and Leaf Green” had been concealed some time before the respective announcement. It would be accurate to infer that the factors involved are what the company has in plan for the trademark in question (using the above example, Pokemon Dash, Diamond and Pearl were all announced as part of the Nintendo DS campaign), as well as the extent to which the name of the trademark could shed light on its actual content (“Pokemon Fire Red and Leaf Green” quite clearly signifies remade versions of the original games, whereas “Pokemon Diamond and Pearl” delivers little to nothing at this stage).

I have just heard of “Manene” and “Manyula”, but as mentioned “Usohachi” has been a registered trademark for some time now. In fact, it was registered alongside “Gonbe”, or at least closely next to it. “Rukario” was registered on October 28th, 2004, and only now the time of its announcement has come. Although it is not guaranteed, these three probable candidates for new Pokemon should be announced in the near future. I can only expect them to fill the same role as Munchlax did last year in the seventh movie–although there was no Pikachu Short, the appearance of Munchlax in the movie constituted the same idea. In the upcoming movie, Munchlax will star next to Pikachu as what appears to me the secondary mascot (Plusle and Minun filled that role in the seventh movie, but Munchlax seems to be serving it permanently from now on), and so the role of new Pokemon whose appearance in the movie constitutes as the Pikachu Short is only to be expected. These could be those Pokemon (Rukario, on the other hand, is undoubtedly a main character in the movie, comparable to Lugia and Latias/Latios).

I would suggest that fans keep any further speculation to the minimum. What we should know is that it is highly probable that these are new Pokemon to be introduced in the upcoming movie, and more importantly the next installment of games. I find that speculative assumptions based on the mere names could lead to more headache rather than anything worthwhile.

Has anyone thought that Usohachi could be a Sudowoodo prevo (sorry if anyone already brought that up…) It makes sense to me, since they already made one for Snorlax. If that’s the case, Munchlax and this guy would probably be right next to each other on the pokedex or something like that.

So if Meowth is able to bypass security measures unown lord, (my next comment isn’t intended to be offensive to meowth but is to clarify what unown lord said.), wouldn’t that be illegal? I find myself doubting your claim at lest.

I meant if security had been set up to stop people veiwing them. I dont know too much about laws as I’m only 12 but that seems like a given.

Your info is fake > _> Please don’t go spreading rumors. Thank you

I apologize if I created the wrong impression. As said, trademarks and patents are accessible for anyone to view. By “getting past the special procedures taken by the company” I meant that Meowth has come to learn how the company conceals many of its registered trademarks. The trademarks are generally registered under a person’s name (I believe that a fabricated company name was the technique used in the case of Fire Red/Leaf Green), and only after some form of official announcement is the trademark no longer concealed, being under the name of Nintendo/Creatures/Game Freak.

Further queries on the subject will have to be addressed to Meowth, as I only happen to know any of this thanks to him. I merely felt that it was necessary to point this out to those who were unaware of this, and instead chose to believe that Meowth had a hidden source whose reliability should be questioned. If any of these trademarks does not turn out to be an actual Pokemon, Meowth will not be the one to blame for the misinformation, but rather the company for registering an unused trademark. Of course, that is a bridge that we will very likely not have to cross.

oh sorry. i was confused there.

I know this sounds crazy, but those names - Pokémon Topaz, Amethyst, White Gold, and Water Blue - could be dummy names to throw off people like Meowth346 who are keeping an eye on the trademarks.

Serebii, how can you be so sure about that? Got a friend in GameFreak or so?

If not, I don’t think anyone can say, that it’s true, OR false. We’ll just have wait and see..

I have to agree with Serebii/Joe > _<

don’t they have shadow’s of them like they did with rukario

Yes, this is me alright you bloody pricks. Do you have any proof to back your information up? Where did you get the names from?

Until you show proof, this is considered fake.

Is it me or does serebii attack sites every time they seem to have news earlier very often ? -.-

I think he is taking this stuff too gosh serious..-.-

I think there is a chance that these names are names for new pokemon, it isn t clearly confirmed, but nobody said so..

If you actually need to ask what the source of these names is, you are deliberately making yourself look ignorant. I have already explicitly noted that these are registered trademarks, and tried to shed light as to how Meowth stumbled upon them. I have taken the liberty to ask Meowth to provide the actual listing for these trademarks, including the date of registeration. The following is the listing:

[Meowth346’s Edit: There’s a problem with Japanese in the comments =( I’ve removed that part of the post, but I’ll upload something about these later on, or you can repost it without the Japanese.]

As you can see, Lucario is the most recent one, while Gonbe dates back to last year’s January. Usohachi was registered in June (as opposed to my previous statement that it was registered almost alongside Gonbe). As for Manene and Manyula, the two were registered on the same date in August, further implying that they are connected to one another.

Again, there is no guarantee that these will truly become Pokemon, and that if they do, they will necessarily retain these names–but this would appear to be the current plan. It is the very least one could claim that lies behind these trademarks, which were officially registered by the company.

Yes you do :P

Meowth, what you say; hachi (in Usohachi) can mean either chopsticks or bridge. Could hachi mean also stick (-> chopsticks)?

Baby Sudowoodo would be sooo cute. I wish next month and next KoroKoro comes soon <3

Could it be… Sudoticks (Psudo + Sticks)

Oops.

What a mistake. Of course hashi is chopsticks/bridge, not hachi…

So Usohachi is maybe a cherrytree evolve of Usokki? ;D

this sounds good you go meowth!

I am A very and i mean very big sudowoodo fan and I can asure you a pre evolving from sudowoodo is much more needed than an evoling it would be so cute too!

PS: seribi i’m on your website and I know you don’t speak that way.

you anonymous serribi go away. and stay away! :P

Actually, a Sudowoodo baby would make sense, since there’s Munchlax, and Sudowoodo is the Johto Pokemon that serves the same role as Snorlax in GSC(obviously, it’s earlier, and I’m ignoring the Snorlax from in Kanto)… So it’d be a similar sort of thing. Only problem is that Sudowoodo is already fairly small.

Anonymous is/was also Serebii - the real one

His comments use the same language and grammar as he does in his comment on Serebiiforums about these “Pokemon”.

He also seems to jump at every chance to discredit u Meowth346 with frequent reminders about the Pokemon names u listed in anticipation of this gen.

One thing’s for sure…

Meowth346 had this news first ;)

Thanks Meowth346 for having the best source of Pokemon information and references.

I apologize. Because of the similarities in posts I jumped to conclusions. But still…

You seemed to be awful eager about handing out a list of all the ‘false’ names Meowth had given out in the past.

It’s too bad that Usohachi wasn’t Usohashi instead–that could’ve made it a stick bug/walking stick Pokemon (Bug/Grass), since according to previous posts, usoki means “fake” and hashi means “stick”.

As much as I like Sudowoodo (he’s my favourite Rock type), the idea of it having an evolved/preevolved form just doesn’t seem right to me.

I would’ve much preferred a Bug/Grass type stick bug over another Rock type petrified tree. :p

hashi means:

1. end (i.e. of street); edge; tip; margin; point

2. bridge

3. chopsticks

hachi means:

1. eight

2. bowl; pot; basin; flowerpot; crow; brainpan

3. bee

(among a few other things)

uso means: lie; falsehood; incorrect fact; inappropriate

usoppachi (very similar in kana to usohachi) means: downright lie

usotsuki (very similar in kana to usokki) means: liar; fibber

Actually usohachi and usoppachi are same word. Japanese language have this “easier to say” feature with some words.

Example “nihon” and “nippon” (both mean “Japan” in japanese). Nippon is like old-fashioned form and Nihon is present-day one. Nowadays japanese ppl prefer to use word “nihon” when they are talking about their own country and nationality.

My english skill is not very good. What “downright” means in “downright lie”?

Himawari;

Downright in this usage means: thoroughgoing; unequivocal.

Take Care

OFF-TOPIC: You beat me to it Animelee.

I followed the link the other night but haven’t had the chance to come online again before now. I’m sure there’s kids browsing this site and so the warning’s a great idea.

am I the ONLY one hoping that these Pokemon - if official - don’t turn out to be related to ANY of the past?

I agree.

The most I’d like to see is maybe two or three pre-evos (Munchlax, and then pre-evos for Mr. Mime and Kangaskhan).

The rest of the Pokemon should be totally new.